"ARSON FRAUD" in Fort Collins? Please rethink Penny Flats and don't prosecute an innocent man...

Submitted by CatWhisperer on Sat, 05/11/2013 - 06:44

NOTE: Updated 11/13/2016

ARSON FRAUD is when someone setting fire to one's property with fraudulent intent ⇒ such as to collect insurance money. "According to Alfred Manes, the majority of property insurance crimes involve arson. One reason for this is that any evidence that a fire was started by arson is often destroyed by the fire itself." Insurance Fraud - Property Insurance

Last year, I wrote about the Penny Flats fire being a possible case of insurance arson. I'm more convinced of it now, because I worked for the plumbing sub-contractor at Penny Flats after the fire, and spoke to individuals who worked there. The original story was Insurance scapegoat for Brinkman? Why am I writing about it again? I was suspicious a while ago, BTW, (Other Suspects? Follow the money...), so this is nothing new.

What benefit could the Mr. Gilmore possibly have in burning down Penny Flats? The fantasy of making a statement for Occupy Fort Collins? Really? Please! That is a ludicrous proposition. How about we look at who benefited the most by that fire, which was Brinkman Partners and the plumbing sub-contractor (as an aside though, I recall one day waiting on my bike for the light to change on College, and I see one of the McWhinney's looking across the street at Occupy Fort Collins, with this look of absolute hatred, whilst talking on a cell phone. One never knows, when there is a handy scapegoat). Now most people would think that crazy. But why is it crazy?

It is my opinion that because of the watch that was found, the DA here has unreasonably focused on Benjamin Gilmore to the exclusion of other possible suspects or criminal theories. We have precedent for that in this jurisdiction. Tim Masters... So here are some ideas:

  • Has anybody looked into the finances of the companies that were working on site at the time of the arson?
  • Has anybody looked into the insurance payouts for Penny Flats, who got what and how much?
  • Construction site arson fires are rare in Northern Colorado. Has anybody looked into any pattern of criminal activity to find correlations between crimes and contractors.


Can you guess folks? It's the Benjamin Gilmore trial. Has he been found guilty? Has he been acquitted? Did he change his mind and plead guilty?

Why is nothing being reported on this trial? Why does there seem to be self-censorship going on at the Coloradoan with respect to this trial.

The taxpayer has a right to know the status of this case. We pay the bills here, folks, and we're not asking for a lot. Is the trial still going on? Some basic information would be helpful, and not all of us are unemployed and able to get to the court building to find out for ourselves. 

Coloradoan staff, please do your job and report the news…indecision

"What benefit could the Beekeeper possibly have in burning down Penny Flats? ... Please! That is a ludicrous proposition." Clearly you are naïve. It is not ludicrous to think that activists to burn down a fancy apartment building in order to make a statement, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Liberation_Front I lived through the 2003 San Diego fire only because I was able to evacuate in time, but I still have nightmares about that night. I have no idea who burned down the Penny Flats, but this article is nothing more than baseless speculation.

Ok, so I'll give that is is speculation, an alternate theory based on my opinion of the character of the individuals possible. There is nothing baseless about it though, because it makes NO sense that Benjamin Gilmore did this. It is portrayed that he was a member of Occupy, correct? What is that based on? Him caring a sign saying “Legalize Paragliding”? Really?

The fact is that one jury already didn't believe the DA's shtick. There were enough independent thinkers on that panel that wouldn't swallow a whole cloth story. Because there is that shred of doubt about the DA's theatrical presentation. That being that Benjamin Gilmore and Occupy could have been painted as convenient patsies for a commercial payout arson, and Benjamin was a convenient scapegoat that kind of threw himself into the lions mouth.

What's the idea that he did it based on?

  • His watch was found at the site, but it can't be proved via physical evidence that he dropped it there.
  • He had burns on his hands that can't be tied to the fire with direct evidence.
  • He had a sign at Occupy Fort Collins NOT RELATED TO ANYTHING about Occupy.
  • He spoke at the City Council meeting after the fire.

In Cliff Riedel's mind, that indicates arson. In the mind of others in the community, that's not enough. There is a history here in this Judicial District of prosecutorial tunnel vision and misconduct that can't be disregarded. Our current DA is part and parcel of that 'Olde Schoole'. This could be exactly what I say, or it could just as well be contractor negligence, or an accident of the homeless, as well as it could be Benjamin Gilmore.

Look at it this way, there is ONLY ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE that ties him to the fire, and that is the watch. It could have gotten to the fire in many ways other than on the person of Mr. Gilmore. Without that watch, the prosecution's case stands on nothing but the FANTASIES OF A STORYTELLER! That's my problem with it…

I have to say that from my experience with both DA's Larry Abrahamson and Cliff Riedel, that these two could not find the truth on anything, even if someone used a nail gun to attach the truth to their foreheads. A good example are the many requests to support the claims made by DA Larry Abrahamson that a broad spectrum antibiotic was to treat a young girl for heat stroke. I guess it is above the investigative skills of these two idiot to find documentation that antibiotics do no good for the treatment of heat stroke, and heat stroke is not that hard to diagnose. The outright lies made by DA Larry Abrahamson just proves that DA Larry Abrahamson is an idiot. Then if you read the transcripts to the case, it becomes clear that 8th Judicial District Attorney Investigator, Elliot Phelps is just plain incompetent. How low the prosecutors will go to gain a conviction or get someone to take a plea deal is criminal. We should expect more competence from those who work for us, and they should find the truth, which they have not much since Blair and Gilmore paved the was for the use of perjury to be a stepping stone to gain a seat on the bench of the 8th Judicial District Courts. The DA's Office is full of DIRT BAGS, like David Vandenberg, Emily Humphrey, Andy Lewis, Nick Cummins, and others. From the case I am talking about disgraced Judge Gilmore, allowed now Judge Thomas Lynch to use perjury to gain a conviction. Thomas Lynch should join the club of disgraced Judges Blair and Gilmore. These are truly to many DIRT BAGS on the bench in the 8th Judicial District.

You've already done more work than the DA's office, Mr. Reaud. 

This line of critical thinking is definitely outside the box, and desirable when investigating suspects. The People (citizens, not the government representing the people) deserve better than narrow focus to the point of tunnel vision. Wrongful prosecutions are not victories.

Re-trial of Ben Gilmore for this fire?  The DA shouldn't get do-overs - the jury rests.

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