Do you want the Crandall Message, or the truth?

CatWhisperer's picture

In Columnist's data on marijuana outdated, copied below, Scoot Crandall tries to give us the spin, as has been the case in so much of this Local Option activity. In this endeavor, statistics has and continues to be abused by the proponents of the intiative to demonize safe, legal procurement of medical marijuana, and the business that provide that necessary service. Now, the very statistic that comes from the sources that Team FTC uses, CASA, is misused when cited by a pro-dispensary proponent. Could it be due to that data being very inconvenient?

In Fort Collins, though there are video cameras photographing every transaction, and have been for a while (I should know, I'm a customer of Mr. Ackerman), and one must show one's card and ID to be allowed into the medicine area, children still seem to be able to access marijuana, in the view of Scoot Crandall, Ray Martines, ADA Ritter, and Sheriff Smith.

Are they investigating how that occurs? Probably the same way that it occurs at liquor stores, ya think? Or is it through the classic channels, the same way I got it back in the late '60s? But no, medical marijuana is special, with a lot of this kind of thing (Schools report sharp rise in drug incidents, 11/8/2010, Education News Colorado):

“I’m sure it’s the legalization of medical marijuana,” said Beverly Kingston, director of the Adams County Youth Initiative, …

Sure you're sure. But what does the actual statistics say? Can anybody actually document an increase in youth smoking of marijuana that directly correlates to Medical Marijuana Centers? Farther along in Schools report sharp rise in drug incidents, Michele DeBerry, “who oversees discipline and attendance issues in the Boulder Valley School District, where drug-related incidents were up 23 percent in the 2009-10 school year over the previous year. She noted that drug-related incidents were split evenly between schools in the city of Boulder – which is home to a concentration of medical marijuana dispensaries – and those farther east, where dispensaries are less prevalent. …”, emphasis mine.

Lets recall certain facts about this poster:

  • Scoot Crandall is employed by Team Fort Collins.
  • Team Fort Collins receives funding from the local liquor establishment and law enforcement.
  • The consumption of alcohol has increased for teenagers in the years 2007-2009.
  • This alcohol is purchased in dispensaries of alcohol which are called liquor stores rather than liquor centers.
  • Every dollar you spend buying the good medicine, you don't spend buying the excreta that bacteria make metabolizing sugar.

Why are we not attempting to shutting down liquor stores with the same vigor that we are attempting to shut down medical marijuana centers? Why are we trying to shut down medical marijuana centers, while turning a blind eye towards the commercial manufacture of alcohol and its dispensation? Nobody in the Fort can, with a straight face, say that alcohol doesn't damage society WAY MORE than medical marijuana. So what's up with the gratitutous hippocrasy?

But what do we get? A local assistant DA and Sheriff who have crossed the line, who are politicking in uniform and via the office (subject of another post).

Scoot's Post:

Steve Ackerman (Coloradoan Soapbox, July 9) did a significant disservice to Fort Collins youths when he misused a national report to justify the operation of businesses such as his in our community. He cited a report by the National Center for Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, or CASA, that indicated marijuana had declined 22 percent since 1999 (June 2011). While CASA is a reputable source of information, Ackerman failed to note the most recent data point on the report was from 2009.Surely, he understands a lot has changed in this nation and this community since 2009 as it relates to marijuana. What he also failed to mention from the report was there is evidence of increased marijuana use among youths between 2007 and 2009. All other substances have shown a steady decline. Misusing data in this way is disingenuous. If you are interested in how our youths are doing, ask your superintendent of schools, school principals, school counselors, SROs and others who are faced with this new challenge among Fort Collins youths.


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CatWhisperer's picture

Actual Colorado Department of Ed Drug Offense Data Analyzed

From: Schools report sharp rise in drug incidents

What's invalid about the following statistics is that it is meaningless without an idea of what the student population was during the reported years. If the student population increased then there should be a corrosponding increase in the drug offense statistic, all other things being equal.


2007-08 2008-09 2009-10 Change from
'08-09 to '09-10
Change from
'07-08 to '09-10
Jefferson County 541 466 562 21% 4%
Denver 341 344 385 12% 13%
Douglas County 130 161 198 23% 52%
Cherry Creek 262 342 418 22% 60%
Adams 12 347 381 473 24% 36%
Aurora 220 193 277 44% 26%
Colorado Springs 25 41 67 63% 168%
Boulder 91 108 133 23% 46%
St. Vrain 67 91 147 62% 119%
Poudre 219 273 405 48% 85%
Mesa County 385 367 456 24% 18%
Pueblo City 244 151 179 19% - 27%
Littleton 93 79 80 1% - 14%
Thompson 391 455 466 2% 19%
Brighton 71 104 123 18% 73%
Westminster 131 76 124 63% - 5%
Pueblo County 60 76 75 - 1% 25%
Adams 14 79 50 61 22% - 23%
Mapleton 46 43 80 86% 74%
Englewood 5 10 13 30% 160%
Sheridan 10 8 15 88% 50%
Statewide 3,809 3,779 5,048 34% 33%
Median 130 108 147 23% 36%
Mean 179 182 226 33% 46%
SD (population) 147 148 173 25% 53%
Kurtosis -0.141 -1.007 -1.254 -0.131 0.514

Critical values are the standard deviation vs. the mean, and kurtosis. From the standard deviation being almost the mean, this can be interpreted as being random data, without correlation. Much more analysis is necessary before anything in the above can be declared to be correlative to medical marijuana or medical marijuana dispensaries/centers.

What standard deviation means: “Standard deviation may serve as a measure of uncertainty. In physical science, for example, the reported standard deviation of a group of repeated measurements should give the precision of those measurements. When deciding whether measurements agree with a theoretical prediction, the standard deviation of those measurements is of crucial importance: if the mean of the measurements is too far away from the prediction (with the distance measured in standard deviations), then the theory being tested probably needs to be revised.”

Fort Collins, CO, USA

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